My buddy and i were comparing the triggers on our 1911s. Series 70 vs 80, the difference is more than you think. There are a number of gold cup and national match pistols manufactured from 1919 to present. It uses the old model sights which i believe are built in the slide. Imo, out of the box with no modifications, the colt gold cup trophy is a better pistol.
I know this debate rages on every gun forum on the internet. I have owned several of the 80 series gold cups and they are nice guns and very easy sells but this was the first 70 series i had ever shot and man have i been missing out. Ive since repeated my experiment see video below on sidebyside comparisons between probably half a dozen new series 70 colts and the current line of series. Ill take it over the series 80 every day of the week and twice on sundays. Should you buy or modify a series 80 or series 70 1911 pistol. Colt released an updated design of their fullsize 1911 pistol in the 1970s hence the name which consisted of a collet bushing instead of the. Barrel chamber hood changed from wide gi style to narrow gold cup style. For personal defense, use the speer 230grain gold 45 dot, as it. Colt series 70 vs series 80, the differences may be more than you think. The markings between the two pistols are also obviously different, although they both sport the colt name and logo. Colt pistols 1911 series 80 for sale guns international. Whats the diffrence between a colt gold cup trophy and a.
Colt fans will argue that series 70 and 80 only apply to colt and any other manufacture claiming series 80 are really just stating it has a firing pin block and mechanism. Before modern customdesigned 1911 pistols were available, the 1911. Enter the serial number, without spaces or dashes, to search the database. However his trigger has way more travel until firing than mine. Some claim that this addition makes for a heavier trigger pull. Colt released an updated design of their fullsize 1911 pistol in the 1970s hence the name. The new colt gold cup trophy pistol features the wellrespected gold cup series 70 wide target trigger, set between 4 to 6 pounds, as well as a 5inch polished, stainless steel national match barrel. Jan 29, 2018 in my second article on the current series 70 see. These two are the current production, fresh off the boat 2015 reintroduction gold cup national match series 70. Colts gcnm gold cup national match duck bill safety tang, spur hammer gi look if youre talking about older gold cups heres a visual. On mine, just pressing the trigger a little and it goes boom. Ive been doing a lot of reading on the forums and i am wondering if the colt series 70 gold cup trophy lite would make a good starter.
Colt s entire line of 1911style pistols were switched to the new design in 1983, so they all bore the series 80 designation even the commander and officers acp models. Colt in the early 1970s introduced a new variation of the 1911a1 pistol called the series 70 model, which incorporated a major change. Colt mfg o5872a1 1911 gold cup national match series 70. This pairing, as with earlier gold cups, results in an incredibly accurate pistol. Colt mfg o5872a1 1911 gold cup national match series 70 single. If you want a highly modified combat 1911, then buy a series 70 or 80 and have a gunsmith that specializes in 1911s do the work. The colt gold cup is a legendary handgun, even an icon, and well worth its price. Along with a group of other gun writers and members of the. Colt mkiv series 70 gold cup national match 1911addicts. Another design change made to the series 80 guns was a redesigned of the halfcock notch. Nov 29, 2015 colt fans will argue that series 70 and 80 only apply to colt and any other manufacture claiming series 80 are really just stating it has a firing pin block and mechanism, colt clones retain many of the differences that are seen in a series 70 vs 80 colt 1911.
Gold cup from the last of the series 70 before they went to the 80 series. He has an 197080s colt gold cup which is a series 80. I suppose admitting it is part of the solution, but this is a problem i may not want to. Really hard to photograph to get the awesome presence of this piece. Shooting and showing the colt series 80 1911 model 1991 please visit the website and check out what the great folks who support us have to offer. Sep 02, 2010 shooting and showing the colt series 80 1911 model 1991 please visit the website and check out what the great folks who support us have to offer. I have a mkiv series 70 gold cup national match at david clevingers shop and he will start working on this pistol about august. If multiple models appear for your serial number simply match the date with the appropriate model, as certain vintage firearms can share serial numbers between different models. A look at the colt series 70 pistol the shooters log.
Available excellent condition colt series 70 gold cup national match 1911 pistol. The colt gold cup mk iv series 70 national match is hard to beat. In the 70s colt got rid of the lanyard loop on the main spring housing and. Colt fans will argue that series 70 and 80 only apply to colt and any other manufacture claiming series 80 are really just stating it has a firing pin block and mechanism, colt clones retain many of the differences that are seen in a series 70 vs 80 colt 1911. Models using the new barrelbushing setup were the government model and gold cup, which were designated the mark iv series 70 or. Now, the connecticutbased gun maker is taking things to the next level with the gold cup trophy. Before modern customdesigned 1911 pistols were available, the 1911 had an undeserved reputation for inaccuracy. In effect, the return to the pre series 80 system at colt is a return to the series 70 style guns and earlier m1911a1s. Two very fine line marks in finish as seen in pics. Colt introduces new gold cup trophy pistol with series 70. Colts national match gold cup personal defense world. He has an 1970 80 s colt gold cup which is a series 80. Colt gun original factory boxescases for sale in stock.
Colt series 708090 firearms talk the community for. Originally posted by 1kperday how is the gc slide lightened. Colt series 80 gold cup national match page 2 m14 forum. On a pistol that has been around for 108 years, there are a bunch of generations, and here is the difference between the 70 and 80 series. The collet bushing was replaced with the solid bushing and the phase out was completed around 1988. Im not aware of any series 70 ss gold cups being made. The older colts gold cup trophy shown has had a lot of love and parts to shoot 100s. In case you are wondering what the differences are. Took my 1992 enhanced bright st st gcnm out of the safe today. Kimber gold match 2 or colt gold cup nm trap shooters forum. The defining characteristic of an actual series 70 is the collet bushing, which is only offered by colt on the colt series 70 pistol that they sell right now. The series 70 is also different from the series 80 1911, which are far more popular today, as well. Colt combat commander box original paperwork 414 series 70 sealed. There is also the gold cup national match series 80 that was introduced in 2014.
If you are looking for one of the most accurate handguns in the world, and a pistol steeped in history, this is the one. It looks like to me that colt is using the gold cup national match designation on the carbon steel guns and gold cup trophy for the stainless steel guns. Recently me and couple of guys went shooting in negative something weather. Box is in only fair condition but is correct to the gun and contains the tool but no papers. The official colt frequently asked questions faq thread. Colt series 70 gold cup national match mfg 1978 free shipping.
Colt national match pistol is this the best 1911 colt. Jan 27, 2017 the new colt gold cup trophy pistol features the wellrespected gold cup series 70 wide target trigger, set between 4 to 6 pounds, as well as a 5inch polished, stainless steel national match barrel. If you have a 1911 that is not made by colt, it is not and can never be a series 70. Ive since repeated my experiment see video below on sidebyside comparisons between probably half a dozen new series 70 colts and. Dec 14, 2018 the colt gold cup is a legendary handgun, even an icon, and well worth its price. Gold cup nm series 70 vs series 80 mk iv 1911forum. In effect, the return to the preseries 80 system at colt is a return to the series 70 style guns and earlier m1911a1s. Colt and only colt made a series 70 model which was a full sized government model that ran from approx. Among other 1911s, i have a series 80 gold cup national match from the early 80s. Mine is a 20 desert eagle 1911 g which is a series 70.
I have ideas about the work i want david to do, but i really dont want to go to extremes. Colts entire line of 1911style pistols were switched to the new design in 1983, so they all bore the series 80 designation even the commander and officers acp models. First the original colt 70 series not the pre 70 was introduced in 1970. With the previous paragraph in mind, it is important to know that from 1983 until 1988 the early government model and gold cup series 80 pistols used the series 70type barrel and bushing as well, although they were known only as series 80 guns. The look, the gun is blued, and its the old style bluing colt was know for. We can get our point across by using the 70 series80 series, and people know what we mean without having to describe that we either do or do not have some kind of firing pin block safety, whether it is a colt system, or the kimber schwartz style. The 70 series differs from the 80 series model with 70 series short trigger has a much faster firing rate than the 80 series. A few monthes ago i was offered a mkiv 70 series colt gold cup it had less than 100 rounds fired through it and at a price i thought was very resonable i thought why not. If youre a competitive shooter, the iconic colt gold cup needs no introduction. The series 80 is simply a 1911 thats has been installed with an internal firing pin block system. By hunter elliott on september 20, 2015 in gun talk i see a lot of use and misuse of the terms series 70 and series 80 when talking about government model and commander pistols so i thought i would lay it out for you all. Between 1983 and 1988, government and gold cup models of series 80 guns contained series. I have been waiting on this pistol since 0217 when it was shipped to david from a gun broker sale.
The biggest change in the series 80 is the firing pin block. Next came the improved series 80 with better sights, a polished feed ramp, and a. Im wondering if any of you have these guns and can offer your opinions. Colt colt series 70 vs series 80 triggers 1911addicts. Even later, colt dropped the gcnm and introduced the gold cup trophy, which is also a series 80 pistol. It has no firing pin block so cleaning is much smoother since i don\\\t have to. Lets take a closer look at the colt series 70 and how it performs.
Amazed by a colt gold cup national match mkiv 70 series. Question about new production colt gold cup national match. Then the series 80 was introduced while the 70 was built in the custom shop. Usa hellomy name is don, and i have a 1911 problem. This pairing, as with earlier gold cups, results in. If you want to shoot an accurate outofthebox match pistol, the springfield armory range officer will shoot 100s with good ammo. Colts series 70 trigger put to the test series 70 vs. Some of the early series 70 gcnm guns had lightened slides and the extractors are visible through the underside of the slide. If set up for defense loads it is as capable as any 1911 and more so than most. The colt gold cup is made to the same specs as their govt model. Present day you can get reproduction series 70 without the collet bushing as well as series 80.
Jan 08, 2010 with the previous paragraph in mind, it is important to know that from 1983 until 1988 the early government model and gold cup series 80 pistols used the series 70 type barrel and bushing as well, although they were known only as series 80 guns. The aftermarket began using the terms series 70 and series 80 to identify. Well, i dont have a colt gold cup, match, or anything like that, just a couple of series 80 colts, a government model and an a1. I see the saro recommended quite frequently but i really like the stainless steel with the blue grips. A gold cup now is really no better from an accuracy standpoint than any other colt 1911. Model and gold cup series 80 pistols used the series 70type barrel and. Apr 14, 2017 available in 45 acp and 9mm, colts new gold cup trophy features competition ergonomics, 25 lpi checkering, series 70 firing system and more. Between 1983 and 1988, government and gold cup models of series 80 guns contained series 70 type barrels and bushings.
Its most notable feature was the 4 pronged collet barrel bushing. Available in 45 acp and 9mm, colts new gold cup trophy features competition ergonomics, 25 lpi checkering, series 70 firing system and more. Colt 1911 70 series was another collectible i\\\ve always wanted. The wide 70 series threehole aluminum trigger on the gold cup broke at a consistent 4. Colt national match pistol is this the best 1911 colt ever made. First the original colt 70 series not the pre70 was introduced in 1970.
It is a polished stainless pistol and is the most accurate pistol i have ever owned. It is the same reason why we use acronyms like ftf, fte, imho, and others. By describing non colt 1911 handguns as series 70 or 80, it makes it. I like them very much, and if everything everyone is saying is true, i might have to get me a gold cup someday. I have the pleasure to own a colt 1911, series 80, mark iv, gold cup, national match, in. The manufacturer finally realized the gun had earned a reputation for being too weak for sustained fire with full power ammunition and went with a full weight slide etc. Series 80 i noted that the trigger was not all it was cracked up to be my colt 1911 enthusiasts. We can get our point across by using the 70 series 80 series, and people know what we mean without having to describe that we either do or do not have some kind of firing pin block safety, whether it is a colt system, or the kimber schwartz style. This is a discussion on colt series 80 gold cup national match within the handguns forums, part of the gun forum category. Then a few years ago, colt brought out the series 70 reissue model.